Friday, January 12, 2007

Topic # 1: Saddam Hussein's execution

OK, we have the first topic and we have the first material to work with. Your colleague, Boon Shern chose the following articles and websites for our discussion about this exquisitely controversial topic:
http://www.objectivistcenter.org/cth-43-1840-Saddam_Hussein's_Execution.aspx

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/12/29/hussein/index.html

The second website also offers some footage that you need to look at, I hope they are not too hard on the soul.

So, please read them through, and jot down your opinions about it during this week (Jan 15-19). You need to do so in order to be in time as we will be moving on to our next, equally interesting topic on Monday, January 22.

Have a great time,
Kinga

12 comments:

Markus said...

Saddam Hussein’s execution is just a logical consequence of the war against Iraq. I did not agree with the invasion in the first place, but it is good to hear they did at least give him a trial. On the other hand, I doubt they would have missed a chance to shoot a rocket right through his window, if they only had known where he was. The media’s attention to the trial and Hussein’s death doesn’t help the American cause either, for it will just arouse more debates about the future of the Iraqi people. I don’t believe the situation in the region itself will be any different now the execution took place, for the insurgents keep on trying everything they can to force the US out of the country anyway.
About comparing the Iraq with post-war Germany, I can only say that the Iraq, NOT having weapons of mass destruction (and the German army and the concentration camps were such things for me) did not attack anybody in the first place and had never practiced democracy. Why would people go along with an unjustified occupation force trying to impose a new way of thinking?

Erine Djayadi said...

Saddam Hussein was executed on the day of Eid Al-Adha - a holiday period that means Feast of the Sacrifice for the Muslims, and this time the feast was more memorable ever than before. Slowly but surely, the issue is gaining much attention and has drawn the expected reactions all over the world. Reading the information about Saddam Hussein who apparently responsible for the deaths of literally millions of Iraqis, maybe it could be considered as fairness to some people that had lost their relatives. I see it is tragic how a leader, who is theoretically supposed to protect and serve the country by heart, would do those disgraced crimes against his own countrymen. While not all are in agreement of the idea of his execution to take place, I found it was surprising that many Iraqis all around the world were celebrating after their former dictator being put on the death sentence. The Saddam Hussein execution is no different from being blown up to provide concerns towards the issue. Would Iraq be a better place for the Iraqis to live after they obtained their freedom from the tyranny? Would world be a better place to live without his presence? Well, at least our biggest enemy against humanity has been defeated and that is a good start.

Bejjanki said...

Saddam Hussein's death has but stirred a controversy in itself. With the emphasis being laid on his hanging there are certain issues being pushed onto the backburner.

Primarily he was given a fair trial and he was hung only after finding him guilty. Did it take too long? How many countries do not have cases that have been pending for years? If cases pertaining to normal citizens can take so much time, what about a former dictator popular for his misdeeds against humanity on trial for the murders of at least 150 people over 20 years ago.

Another problem is that they broadcast the proceedings of the trial and through those means Hussein could influence his followers. That should have never happened and may be the war would have ended earlier than it will end.

They wanted a separate date of execution for Saddam and the others scheduled to be executed. This in itself is recognizing what a single individual has achieved, however wrong they are. Saddam is going to be remembered on par with Hitler and will most definitely have an entire chapter in History for himself and how US led troops captured and ended his tyranny.

Ozgur Delemen said...

Saddam Hussein, one of the biggest
dictators of all times is finally dead. He was hanged on December 30th, 2006. Most people believe this is for the good of all humans. I agree with them. I believe Saddam Hussein deserved to be stopped by all means a long time ago.

First of all, I noticed that the first article listed on the webpage indicated that the trial was not fair at all. I agree with the writer of this article. When the Nazis were on trial, all of their crimes were exposed to public. Thus, the public and in fact, the world learned a lesson. I think Saddam’s trial should have been like that. They should have told the world about everything he did, so that the world would learn a lesson. All I can say is that it was a fair trial for him since not everyone knows about every crime he committed.

The second thing I would like to point out is that I do not think anything will change after Saddam’s death. It may be true that a lot people, even Iraqis celebrated his death, but this does not mean that peace and democracy will be formed in Iraq suddenly. It takes a lot of time to build a country from the start. Germany did a good job, because most people learned a lesson and tried really hard to get the humanity back. The situation is not the same in Iraq. There is still no organization in the government and the country is in a mess. If Iraqis do the same as Germans, if they put all the effort they have in this, they will succeed, but again not suddenly. There will not be a miracle like that. It will take a long time.

The last thing I would like to talk about is his execution day. I find Iraqi government very stupid to give Saddam a day. Doing this made him more important to everyone. They did not give him a fair trial, they did not list his crimes, then why did they need to give him a special day? I think that was something Saddam would appreciate. He would like to be remembered with a day dedicated only to his execution. He should have been treated no different than the others and he should have been executed with them. Thus, he would not feel special. I think this is another place where Iraqi government made a mistake.

As a conclusion, I believe that Saddam’s execution was the right thing to do. Even if it will not change anything in the near future, it was a crucial step to take in the Iraqi history. He has made millions of people suffer and he has betrayed and ruined his country. He deserved to be hanged.

Angie Chen said...

Saddam Hussein, one of the world's most powerful leader, was hanged as the heinous criminal he was. Though I am a buddhist and hate wars, murders and discrimination, I still so strongly agree with most of people in the world, he was deserved!

The life time story of Saddam Hussein to me seems like a typical failure of leaders. He owned the country, had the power and the army. He could become a nice, wealthy, countryman-all-loving leader, but he didn't. Regardless of the isuue of religion, in Iwaq, Saddam was convicted and executed for the 1982 murders of 148 people in the town of Dujail in the wake of an assassination attempt against him. His crimes had led to the offence of humanity.

According to the second article, he showed fear when he was hanged. By contrast, "this dark page has been turned over." Rubaie said."Saddam is gone. Today Iraq is an Iraq for all the Iraqis, and all the Iraqis are looking forward...The Hussein era has gone forever.." Yes, it is easy to tell that citizens hate Saddam so much and even celebrated when their leader was hanged.

In my opinion, Saddam is deserved to be hanged. His life is so much a failure.

Gisheilla said...

Saddam Hussein, President of Iraq for the past two decades, is known as the most hated Arab leader. He was executed by hanging after being convicted of crimes against humanity. In spite of his terrible crimes, he still got a fair trial, but after all, he still had to be executed. Some people may happy about this because they might loose their families because of Saddam’s crimes. Some people, especially the Iraqi, may not agree because they still think Saddam Hussein was a prominent leader for the country in the past.
In this case, I should say that Saddam Hussein deserved to get a heavy punishment, but do execution is the best way to punish him? The death of Saddam does not change a thing. It is just simply an action of revenge for some people. On the other hand, execution might be the best punishment for Saddam himself, because compare to be jailed for the rest of his life, he might choose the execution. In addition, some people may still profess a taught about hand pay by hand and blood pay by blood.
And about the date of the execution, it is a good point that they gave one specific date for Saddam so people remember that date as Saddam’s execution.
At last, I could not stand on both position because there are always pro and contra and both have make sense reasons to prove.

shernch said...

First off, let me just quote a phrase commonly used by most Muslims' Allah Arakbah'(God is great). Let me just say that those were the last words spurted out of the mouth of a former dictator. Fallen and overshadowed, Saddam whose name once struck fear into the hearts of his people has finally been removed. Nevertheless, is this the end of years of brutal tyranny? Or is this the begining of a hideous nightmare. Rebel Islamists groups have risen prior to the fall of the dictator, causing amok and concocting havoc on the streets of Iraq. Revenge bent on the Sunnis, Shitte extremists have assumed control and have been partly responsible for the many bombings of late. Saddam's trial may have brought temporary happiness and vengeance to those he tormented but the violence still rages on. Aside from the fact that the trial appeared to be a rushed process, misery still haunts the streets of Bhaghad,now one of the most dangerous cities in the world. Has Saddam's death signified an end to decades of tyranny? Or will another dictator rise to take the place where Saddam left off? That is entirely up the Iraqi government and what political power it possesses to quench the bloodthirsty Muslims on the battlefield.

Jose Alejandro Gutierrez said...

Saddam hussein has been one of the most ruthless and cold-hearted "leaders" to ever walk the face of the eath. At first, the Americans invaded Iraq under the assumption that weapons of mass destruction where hidden under Saddam's wearhouses. There where none. however, I believe the American armed forces are fighting for a greater cause than stopping a dictator or finding weapons of mass destruction. They are fighting for the iraqi people and their right to live. To live freely withouth persecution, tyranny or oppression. Furthermore, I completely agree and feel happy that Saddam has been executed and videotaped for the rest of the world to watch. He murdered thousands of people, his own people I might add, with chemical and biological weapons. His execution can be both good and bad for the Iraqi people and for the USA. Saddams death caused more insurgents and
"freedom fighters" to get angry and create more destruction. Yet Husseins death, I am sure, aliviated and gave hope to some, if not most, to the poor lost souls in search of freedom and a normal way of life.

Aditya said...

Saddam Hussein this man was the leader of a country that was in a mess. I donot think it is just that he was hung, that was too easy a death for him. As such the man was broken down and he had lost all his mental strength and hope; this could be seen by watching his last videos in courtrooms and even his hanging. He actually begged for a better death - to be given a soldiers death - to be shot rather than a criminals death, but he was hung and this was another big blow to his so called self esteem. He should have not been hung , rather he should have been given a really harsh punishment, be allowed to live only to think of death. He sould have been punished in such a way that he would have prayed for himself to die rather than be tormented everyday; that would have been a better punishment. Capital punishment in my opinion is the easiest punishment that could be given to him. He had led to the development of his country but he had tormented his people more and he should have got the same thing in return. Hundreds of mothers cried because their sons were killed for no reason. Hundreds of sisters cried because their brothers were killed for no reason. He didnt even pay back a fraction of what he had done to them. Some people think he was a good man. He was for a few who actually considered him some sort of a god, but what good is a leader who makes his own people suffer. To conclude, he should not have been hanged but should have been given a harsh punishment.

Henry said...

Saddam Hussein's execution is totally understandable to many of the peoples because he is notorious around the world. Personally, I totally agree with most of the peoples that he deserved this punishment. He was one of the famous dictators who caused wars and bunch of the problems in the Middle East. His crucial let many of the peoples lost their life. After all of those reasons, I think the trial is really fair and justified.

However, I believe this execution might be done it too soon, since there still are a lot of questions about everything he did. Also it looks like he really did get unfair treatment right before he got hanged. Even though, his death means one of the dictators in the world is gone, killing him this way does not allow those who support him get enough time to accept that he deserves die. It might bring up more controversial stuffs about the situation between the United States and the Middle East.

In conclusion, even he deserved it for what he been doing in his life, this execution was finishing in the wrong time. It should be taking care in future instead of past.

Seung Joon said...

On 30th of December 2006, the most notorious dictator Saddam Hussein was hanged. . Saddam Hussein should be punished before. He slaughtered many people and broke the peace between other nations. He threatened the people in the world. After his execution, people in the Arab countries celebrated it. I also think that this was a good choice for people who want freedom in Iraq. Furthermore, this is a good example that shows the end of a dictator. This action will give some effects to the dictators and people who threaten the others’ peace and life.

Anonymous said...

One should never anaylze or judge a situation based on just one point of view; you have to take different aspects into consideration. Everyone has his/her own position under different situations. In the case of Saddam Hussein's execuation, my position is pretty much neutral. If we look at this situation morally from a democratic point of view, then obviously Saddam Hussein deserves to be executed due to his slaughtering of hundreds decades ago. But keep in mind that's just US's position, was his actions inmoral or illegal in his own country? Obviously not since a dictator has obsolute power over everything. Furthermore, Saddam Hussein was executed in the so called criminal court - established by US herself, while half of the nation believed he was innocent and the other half believed he deserved it. Therefore there wasnt much Iraq could do but to sit there and wait for Saddam to get executed when you're facing the strongest country in the world. No other nation could really take any physical actions to go against US's invasion even if they really want to. A country is virtually invincible when it gains absolute military power. Everything that is wrong becomes right, everything that is right becomes wrong. The politicians can always come up with a way to justify their actions to the rest of the world. And clearly their reason for this invasion wasnt just to so called "liberate" Iraq from Saddam's dictatorship. I mean, there has been plenty of dictators throughout history. One example was when Chiang Kai Shek took over Taiwan after he was defeated by communist China. Why didnt the US do something about CKS's dictatorship during that time then? There are also indisputable photo and historical evidence of his massacre of thousands of innocent civilians who stood against CKS's dictatorship. Because Taiwan did not have any weapons of mass destruction? Neither did Iraq have any weapons of mass destruction. THerefore the answer clearly melts down to Oil - the scarce resource that People's been fighting over for the past 100 years. Personally, I dont really see any so called democratic or humanistic success for the US in the war of Iraq. The US are just piling up more and more national deficit. Instead of spending money to gain control of the oil, you might as well spend money on research and development on renewable energies.